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FabBlab — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:24:53 -0000

While I agree with what you said above about dressing up for school as you would for college, I know I couldn't possible live without a faitful pair of skinny jeans.
I can't really relate bc we have strict uniforms and we don't have to think about anything except what we're wearing after school for whatever event.
Nice post. Insightful as usual.
XO
A*
http://FabBlab.blogspot.com

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Anonymous — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:54:00 -0000

I personally love your blog. Yet I believe that people should be allowed to wear t-shirts for some days that they feel like dressing down.

Having t-shirts doesn't mean that people can't dress up.

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ashley — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:17:00 -0000

I didn't mean to come off so bitchy... you just kind of remind me of myself. I grew up in a wealthy town and was incredibly sheltered. What I meant by my comment is that it's going to be a good thing for you when you're tossed out of your comfort zone because you're going to be exposed to so much more. You're hopefully going to see that dressing smart =/= being smart. Your comment "I feel that the rigorous academic ambiance is reduced when one is wearing a band tee instead of a cashmere v-neck sweater" just irked me, as it seemed to irk many of your other readers... mostly because it's just an incredibly ignorant comment.

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Noel — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:56:00 -0000

Ashley:
Well that's a rather rude comment :]. I have lots of friends around the Ivy League schools and I know they dress any way that they like (one friend at Columbia wears a Stanford sweatshirt from high school a lot and no one cares).

I for one do not mind the opposition to my personal opinions -- I do however, consider "i can't wait until you're tossed out of your little bubble..." to be rather rude though.

I am not clueless, you sillypoo hehe :]. I merely just like dressing up and don't mind my school dress code. I used to go to a public school with no dress code and I didn't mind that either.

If you can't wait until I'm "tossed out", I'm hoping you have something better to do while you wait.

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ashley — Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:50:00 -0000

you're in for a rude awakening when you go to college. if you think that everyone at your ivy league school will be wearing cashmere to class every day, you're out of your mind. i attend an ivy league school and the majority of the students wear hoodies and jeans to class. i can't wait until you're tossed out of your little bubble...

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Gabrielle Papa — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:46:00 -0000

People should wear what they want. These students should lobby and be allowed to wear T shirts.

In my high school they had a dress code, aka a waste of 5,000 sheets of paper about dressing modestly that was ignored and not inforced.

Girls came to school in micro-minis and tube tops, guys in ripped jeans and t-shirts with obscene sayings. Even my friend Vinny, one of the top students in the class (Who got into Yale, but goes to Amherst on a scholorship), wore sloppy jeans and band tees every day. Looking the part doesn't mean one is smarter.

Some dressed up everyday (the football team, when out of team uniforms, wore tailored business-men suits). But it's really an individual's decision. Individual expression and identity (even if it is something as shallow as how one dresses) feeds education, learning to respect everyone's different tastes and opinions (as it is trendy to wear it on one's shirt. GO OBAMA!) more than just forcing everyone to be the same.

I mean for fucks sake, when filming Legally Blond, they had to put extras in @ Harvard who "looked the part" of preppy, collard-shirt and slacks, Ivy League students, because the actualy students didn't dress "the part" at all.

I like and respect you. You're a decent writer and obviously intelligent, but sometimes you do come off a bit snobbish and this is a prime example why. Hopefully, you will read over your post and realize how you come off to some people.

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Anonymous — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:51:00 -0000

these people above were 100% correct in my opinion:

"As a college student, I can attest that individual styles do not detract from recieving a quality education!"

"it's important to distinguish yourself and form your own beliefs/opinions, and if dressing a certain way can help one to attain this, then a reduced dress code should be advocated."

If someone is not dressed obsecenly or inappropriately, yet still the way they feel most comfortable and confident, therefore contributing to their academic success, then why is it your issue whatsoever, just because you personally do not like the tone it sets? You have every right to disagree with the option to dress down at your school--but really, even if your current dress code is reduced, no one will be stopping YOU from wearing your skirts/heels/headbands. However, for those who are more inclined to a less rigid style, they aren't just "compelled" to dress that way--they're forced. I think in such instances, everyone should have the right to choose as long as the clothing is modest and appropriate.

I'm going to have to agree with anonymous above me, as well.

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Noel — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:37:00 -0000

Secretista:
Exactly -- detention!
Laura:
Yep, polos are allowed.

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Anonymous — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:31:00 -0000

Normally, I completely agree and love your posts...but lately, you've become so much harder to relate to, and this is a perfect example as of why.

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couture gal — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:30:00 -0000

sorry but i completely disagree! I love t shirts, they dont have to be sloppy or casual. they can be what ever kind of outfit you want! i actually did a post about white tees and made a comment about this post! click on my blog to read it!

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Lilly — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:51:00 -0000

i agree with a lot of the other commenters that you sound kind of stuck up and snobbish, but you are entitled to your opinion.

as for my school, we have a "dress code" which basically means NO jeans and our shirts must have a collar (a polo, oxford, etc.) it's pretty lax but i think its too lax. i think schools should either have no clothing rules (except for ones about modesty) or have a uniform, where everyone wears the same, or similar, outfit.

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Miss at la Playa — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:30:00 -0000

In my school the uniform was quite simple yet pretty. From the kids it was a red and white uniform. The girls had to wear little dresses with thin white and red stripes, very cute.
From 6 to 16 years the uniform consisted of a dark blue skirt and white polo.
In spain there are some schools like yours, they don't have a proper uniform but they give some limits

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madoka — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:34:00 -0000

Usually I can relate to you quite well, and I actually do wish sometimes that we had sharp uniforms at my private school. It would be fun to dress the part!

I agree with the comment above though-- it's really stuck up. I assure you, my school regularly sends students to Ivy Leagues (and I would insist proof, I'm sure you would too: 7 Princeton, 7 Harvard, 6 Yale for the Big 3, and an additional 7 to Stanford were all accepted for the class of 08), and we all wear t-shirts. Being politically correct is important to us, and the snobbery of believing that a cashmere sweater is more conducive to learning than a t-shirt is unacceptable. But maybe we do things differently in Washington.

Also, I was just wondering, but is it necessary that you wear a James Perse tee? Does that make it more socially acceptable than say, a t-shirt from a Death Cab concert, or a t-shirt whose proceeds benefit AIDS research? The way you say it, it sounds an awful lot like "well, if you must wear an unsophisticated t-shirt, better make it of the ridiculously expensive variety," and while I wholeheartedly agree that they ARE nicer (I for one prefer C&C California), I also think in this context it is inappropriate.

I want to believe that this post was written as a veiled plea to stop wearing sweatpants to school (AGREED), but at some point it crossed the line from "What happened to dressing up for formal environments like school?" to "We are smarter because we dress smarter."

Just my two cents. Keep up the good work!

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Guhn — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:57:00 -0000

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Anonymous — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:52:00 -0000

"and I feel that the rigorous academic ambiance is reduced when one is wearing a band tee instead of a cashmere v-neck sweater."

that was a very stuck up comment.

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elizabeth ann — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:09:00 -0000

lol i wear a t-shirt almost every day of my life. and not even a fitted one.

sleep is precious in high school. if i can roll out of bed at 6:40 throw on jeans, t-shirt, and flipflops instead of taking time to put together an outfit, i'm sure as hell going to.

but anyway, california prep schools and midwest public schools are obviously entirely different cultures

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Fariha — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:28:00 -0000

wow..prude.

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loveforlanvin — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:47:00 -0000

Hmm...I partially agree, and partially disagree.

Personally, I can't imagine life with a stricter dress code. There are just those days when I wake up with time for a shower AND a cute outfit, or those days where my self-esteem is shot and I'd rather not stand out too distinctly. Thus, the plain t-shirt/college sweatshirt/band t-shirt is utilized. This statement doesn't apply to everyone, but since I usually am too busy to remind myself to pick out an outfit in the evening, I can't imagine the added stress of having to actually think about it in the morning when I really dont have the time/desire.

But with that said, at my school at least, I wish some things would change. Like I said, I love dressing up, but when I do I always receive multiple comments asking what the occasion is, why so fancy, etc. Therefore I do wish people (at my school)would put in a bit more effort...I personally think it's refreshing to stand out from the whole Abercrombie & Fitch/daily sweatpants person.

But with that said, it is a fine line to tread properly. I think that private school/public schools are different realms in regard to dress codes...i think my school could do with a little more effort class, while yours would largely be successful with a casual chic. But aside from acheiving "academic ambiance" with a strong focus, I think it's important to distinguish yourself and form your own beliefs/opinions, and if dressing a certain way can help one to attain this, then a reduced dress code should be advocated.

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Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:00 -0000

I would totally choose a no t-shirts rule over my schools uniform. I hate having to wear almost the same thing and same colours everyday :(

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Kate — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:45:00 -0000

To Martin: I have a feeling we go to the same university!

To Noel: I have been reading your blog for quite a while, but this post compelled me to comment.

Coming from a liberal university, the students in my school are very protective of their "rights". Just recently, there was a huge ruckus regarding our school's dresscode (it was about flip flops!), and many violently lobbied for the abolition of any rules on clothing choice.

I appreciate your sound arguments for wanting your school to keep its "polished" appearance. Personally, I also don't think dress codes are restrictive. As you have mentioned, there should be more effort put in dressing up for school.

It's not about elitism, really, it's just that studying is better when you look the part. Right? :)

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Faris — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:32:00 -0000

I just have to say that reading your posts is like watching a mirror image of myself! i have NEVER related to a blogger so much as i have to you. I am a 16 years old, a cheerleader, dreams of being fashion editor-in-chief or a designer and have had a lifelong obsession of wearing headbands whereever i go. even thogh are lifestyles are diffrent i can't stop reading and are so happy for all that you have achieved so far in your life and i someday dream to be just as lucky as you are. You inspire me in a way that no one else does and i hope that some day in the future maybe we'll meet. wether it's in New York or during Paris fashion week, happily sucessful and dressed in black chanel.
Thank you.

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lovekylie — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:59:00 -0000

I agree with you on a lot on some parts. I absolutely love dressing up. But I am capable of incorporating a t-shirt into my wardrobe every once in awhile whether it be with a scarf or a vest. Don't knock it completely. :)

PS, I'm obsessed with the bell-sleeve shirt by Phillip Lim.

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Chelsea Rae — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:52:00 -0000

This is interesting because I'm the complete opposite of you. I think I only own one collared shirt, and I haven't worn that in a very long time. I like the challenge of figuring out how to dress up a band tee or some other graphic tee, and many times I feel like the t-shirt is what separates me from all the other people who enjoy wearing skirts and actual pants to school. I do however wear a lot of cardigans over my t-shirts, but they're usually a bit over-sized— and, when I have to dress up for work, I just wear dresses.

My brother, however, went to a private school in Michigan for a little while, and now primarily wears collared shirts open with a t-shirt under them. I think it looks perfectly normal on him. Its a very "to each his own" subject.

I do however agree that school isn't the place to wear sweat pants or club wear— sweats look frumpy on everyone.

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susie_bubble — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:04:00 -0000

Uniforms are pretty standard stuff in the UK so this is all very enlightening for me...

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Anonymous — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:59:00 -0000

I think a plain white tee shirt is a staple for your wardrobe, and shouldn't be disregarded. The most elegant of people can always pull off a tee shirt. Sure a log tee might make people frustrated but the effortless look of a plain ole' tee shirt will never go out of style.